Thank you for taking the time to read my article and commenting.
Apologies for that, I thought I had fixed that in my review but I suppose I did not. I have adjusted that accordingly, thank you for pointing that out.
On your second point, I would have expected as much. I had watched a few hours of his content but came away feeling that his approach was less about these protocols and more about mental resolve. This is what had tempted me to address the topic in a Substack article.
Naturally the guy has put out hundreds if not thousands of hours of content and a few books, which I can't claim to have read much of but I am glad that he does also have productive tools for people.
Did you find these protocols and operating procedures were helpful for you? Any quick ones you suggest for the benefit of other readers?
Thanks for sharing. Little thought of my own, we don't actually have as much discipline than we think we have. Ritual is a better way of framing routine since ritual begets something spiritual. Subscribed and keep it up :)
Insightful piece! I'm wondering if you've read Determined by Robert Sapolsky, or listened to him on podcasts. He's got an interesting take, which sort of layers your argument further. His claim is that, despite however much you want to, you can't will yourself to have more willpower. Willpower of course being the driver of discipline on a moment to moment basis.
Thank you for taking the time to read and comment on my article.
Freedom equals discipline is Jocko's argument, I chose not to spend more time recapping his thoughts on the issue largely for length and interest purposes. I summarized it as from his perspective if you want to be successful, discipline is the key.
Discipline is a subjective trait. You and I might both believe we have discipline while others might say neither of us are discipline. You can try to design tests to determine discipline but there is no objective way of knowing. This is partially why I find his belief in discipline to be generally broad.
I agree and considering that most of his listeners likely did not serve, his advice to "just get after it", is probably not going to help them much.
In general I think it is good to have discipline, but that by itself probably won't be enough.
Happy to discuss any other points I brought up further!
If you deep dive Jocko’s leadership books he leans into taking personal responsibility and being accountable to one’s actions. It’s probably considered a very American philosophical approach to self improvement. He also draws greatly from military leadership and training doctrine that encourages self accountability, discipline, and team work. He published a book called “The Code, Evaluation, Protocals” But I never checked it out, just heard him talk a boy it on his Pod.
1) Jocko was a Navy SEAL not a Marine
2) Jocko does have a a lot of content on building “protocals” or “standard operating procedures” that are similar to your systems approach.
Hi Miguel,
Thank you for taking the time to read my article and commenting.
Apologies for that, I thought I had fixed that in my review but I suppose I did not. I have adjusted that accordingly, thank you for pointing that out.
On your second point, I would have expected as much. I had watched a few hours of his content but came away feeling that his approach was less about these protocols and more about mental resolve. This is what had tempted me to address the topic in a Substack article.
Naturally the guy has put out hundreds if not thousands of hours of content and a few books, which I can't claim to have read much of but I am glad that he does also have productive tools for people.
Did you find these protocols and operating procedures were helpful for you? Any quick ones you suggest for the benefit of other readers?
Thanks for sharing. Little thought of my own, we don't actually have as much discipline than we think we have. Ritual is a better way of framing routine since ritual begets something spiritual. Subscribed and keep it up :)
Thank you for the kind words and sharing your thoughts.
It’s interesting you touched on ritual.
I think you are going to enjoy the article coming out Tuesday morning EST.
Insightful piece! I'm wondering if you've read Determined by Robert Sapolsky, or listened to him on podcasts. He's got an interesting take, which sort of layers your argument further. His claim is that, despite however much you want to, you can't will yourself to have more willpower. Willpower of course being the driver of discipline on a moment to moment basis.
Hi @Philip Birk thanks for reading and sharing the kind words.
I had no heard of Robert Sapolosky or his book but I’m adding it to my reading queue now and looking forward to checking it out.
Thank you for the suggestion!
Appreciate your take on this subject Ben, you’ve got my sub.
Thank you @Wesley Yancy super kind words and will do my best to make it worthwhile for you.
1. you never explain why freedom equals discipline.
2. Who has discipline? How is this distributed over the population. How long can you starve yourself for?
3. Army men are chosen for discipline. This is there number one trait.
Hi Adrian,
Thank you for taking the time to read and comment on my article.
Freedom equals discipline is Jocko's argument, I chose not to spend more time recapping his thoughts on the issue largely for length and interest purposes. I summarized it as from his perspective if you want to be successful, discipline is the key.
Discipline is a subjective trait. You and I might both believe we have discipline while others might say neither of us are discipline. You can try to design tests to determine discipline but there is no objective way of knowing. This is partially why I find his belief in discipline to be generally broad.
I agree and considering that most of his listeners likely did not serve, his advice to "just get after it", is probably not going to help them much.
In general I think it is good to have discipline, but that by itself probably won't be enough.
Happy to discuss any other points I brought up further!
Gillis. Legend
Right?
This guy has been on such a run past few years.
He was the people’s champion, now he’s starting to challenge Pete Davidson for the other belt.
Good post Ben, you earned my sub!
That is the ultimate praise.
Thank you sir!!
If you deep dive Jocko’s leadership books he leans into taking personal responsibility and being accountable to one’s actions. It’s probably considered a very American philosophical approach to self improvement. He also draws greatly from military leadership and training doctrine that encourages self accountability, discipline, and team work. He published a book called “The Code, Evaluation, Protocals” But I never checked it out, just heard him talk a boy it on his Pod.
Accountability is definitely important and I also like what he says about taking ownership.
I’ll check out what he says about the new book on his podcast.
Thanks for the recommendation!